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Characters/pairings: canon characters, mention of Mai/Zuko
Ratings/warnings: G


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Being a notation made at the foot of a wall

In the lower passage of the eastern apartments

By the children of the second prince

In the year of the sand leopard

At the close of the evening

In the electrical air before thunder

When they should have been in bed.

 

 

When I grow up I am going to be

A prince.

I was going to write that!

I know, dumb-dumb.

 

 

 

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Being some fragments of juvenilia

Attributed to Fire Lord Zuko,

Who was given to the fire

In the year of the dragon-hawk

Honour to his memory.

 

 

Mai, your hair shines like

The sun on a [deletion: ‘sword’] knife, I wish

I could stroke it now.

 

Mai, your face, [deletions: ‘beautiful’, ‘fine’, ‘lovely’] so clear,

A full moon in deep water.

Or in the night sky.

 

I want you to know,

Mai, that I even enjoyed

The part with the fish.

 

Summer rain falls [deletion: illegible] softly.

Mai, your skin is snow pale silk

Except [illegible].

 

 

For access to the remaining texts, please apply to the royal archivists.

Relevant forms are available at the central library and from the lower palace offices.

Access is subject to approval.

 

 

 

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Being a notation discovered on the wall of the upper guest chambers,

accompanied by a series of markings


possibly unidentified tribal symbols


perhaps intended as representations of individuals


or as schematic maps


together with a fine amateur drawing of an air bison


during palace renovation work in the wake of the Century War:

 

 

WATER TRIIIIIIBE.

 

 

 

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Being a letter in the hand of Fire Lord Zuko, provisionally dated from the third year of his reign, from the private collection of Fire Lord Akemi:

 

Aang. [deletion: I hope you are well] I’m sorry. I know you have a lot to do where you are, but I need you here, please. There are still disturbances in [illegible] and shortages [illegible] hardly any reserves; peasants are still using rice for brewing despite the prohibitions [deletion: illegible].

There are other issues but [deletion: I’m sure things will improve soon] the problem is Red Rock Island. People are refusing to evacuate and the Fire Sages say they need your help to allow for a controlled eruption. This absolutely cannot wait, Aang, it is not like last summer.

I hope you are well, all the same. I’ve had to do some things, here. I need to talk to you. Mai says hello to Katara and so do I of course.

Please disregard the wording on the letter sent through official channels and come as soon as you can. With deepest respect, Zuko.

PS – Aang I don’t know if you will be able to [illegible; the lower half of the document has sustained severe fire damage].

 

 

 

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Being a notation earthbent into the ceiling of the throne room:

 

Toph Bei Fong rulez [sic].

 

Other fragmentary characters appear in general to be attempts to represent vulgar Earth Kingdom phrases. They are however legible only with difficulty.

 

All these characters are still extant behind the decorative panelling.

 

 

 

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From the collection of messenger scrolls in the possession of Prince Kenzo, second child of Mai and Fire Lord Zuko. Transcribed and deciphered by Hina Laosin, palace archivist.

 

 

For the immediate attention of Fire Lady Mai.

 

Your Honour,

 

Glory and good fortune to the Family and the Nation.

Allow me to state at the outset that our guest remains in custody.

We have reassessed our security procedures in the wake of the incident.

Nevertheless, at sunrise check-in this morning, the following text was discovered burnt into the wall outside our guest’s room:

 

I wish to emphasize that my business remains unfinished. My dearest Mai, please inform [illegible] that I have something to say.

With all due respect,

[illegible] Azula.

 

She appears to have locked herself back inside without any further activity.

 

Awaiting immediate instruction,

 

Your humble servant,

Ayako Muzon

Chief warden, Seika Island Facility.

 

 

 

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Written by Princess Ursa for the attention of her youngest child, just prior to her departure for exile.

 

 

My dearest girl,

 

Please remember what I told you this evening about your honoured father, it is very important.

I promise you that other things are more important than [illegible].

Please remember that I love you, Azula, always.

Please remember that a certain standard of behaviour is required

From someone in your position.

I wish I had time to come to you but there is no time.

Darling remember it is how you use it that counts.

 

Please be careful, darling, remember you are very strong with all my love your mother.

 


This paper was burnt while the ink was still wet.

 

 

 

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Being a note discovered tucked into the side of Fire Lady Mai’s mirror by Mai herself.

 

I’m sorry Mai.

I know you’ll already know when you find this.

I know you’ll understand, sort of.

I’ll try not to hurt any of the guards.

I’ll try not to let her hurt anyone.

Hugs, Ty Lee.

 

 

 

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Being a notation discovered on the favourite wall scroll of Fire Lord Zuko

Which is a perfect example of Kanzo Era calligraphy

OR IT WAS

And which he had only taken down

And left on his desk

For a moment.

            Dad, Mother said you’d be in here.

            We need to ask you something.

            Because Uncle said you were the expert.

                        Just put it here, silly.

            Fine. Where do babies come from?

            We will be in the garden.

                        ANSWER SOON PLEASE IT IS A BET.

 

 

 

 

 


Date: 2010-09-21 11:17 pm (UTC)
quigonejinn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
Or this: a funeral club. Iroh is a steady member of the merchant's association for the district, and since he came back without the young man who had been helping him, a few months later, one of the other merchants approaches him.

"Do you have family in the city?" the man says, sipping his tea. He runs a tailor's shop, specializing in high-end custom robes. "It is a good idea for those of us who are alone."

Members to put their money in every month, and when they die, the club pays for the expenses of the funeral. Even if you are buried in the city (as opposed to being transported home), there is a grave site. The after-funeral dinner. Incense to burn, so that your ancestors know that you are on your way to join them. Small clay models to accompany you into the grave, so that you will have presents for your ancestors when you finally see them.

Iroh does not hold much stock with this: the Fire Nation teaches grave-fire purifies us all into ash and nothingness, but Iroh has seen too many burned bodies to have believed that for decades. This is, in fact, why he made them bury Iroh, rather than burn him. In the circles of power, this was counted as a sign of his madness.

Date: 2010-09-22 12:04 am (UTC)
obsession_inc: Azula does not freakin' apologize. (Azula No Apology)
From: [personal profile] obsession_inc
Jesus Christ, you guys, I LOVE THIS ALL SO MUCH. Burying Lu Ten instead of giving him to the fire-- God. I'm thinking of the theory we had going about Iroh's legitimacy and this? This would be another thing that would make it 'okay' for Ozai to overthrow him.

Date: 2010-09-22 01:04 am (UTC)
quigonejinn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
Bury Iroh. *FACEPALM*

But living in his tea shop in the Upper Ring, he keeps an eye out, just the same.

I want the fic about him being haunted -- no joke, actual poltergeist-y ghost haunted -- so bad, it's not even funny. He takes it as a sign that he is going to die soon.

What, was he supposed to be frightened? That is his son, blood of his blood, fire of his fire. It Lu Ten wants to move around a few pai sho figures, whisper a few things to the fire in the stove, well, Iroh isn't going to be worried about it.

Date: 2010-09-22 01:56 pm (UTC)
quigonejinn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
AZULON IS PRINCE CHARLES

That phrase will always make me laugh. Always. If reports start popping up of some chick wandering around conventions wearing a shirt with that, you can be pretty sure it's me. (And yeah, in my head, Ilah is as far from being model pretty as Camilla is -- handsome in the traditional cultural sense, so well-built and strong and good at the upper-class sports of FIREBENDING and MILITARY CAMPAIGNING of the Fire Nation, but really, not going to show up as a fashion icon or on a commemorative plate in a Cinderella dress anytime soon.)

And yeah, Iroh is so, so, so the FitzRoy that lived up to the titles and then some. In my head, a big part of Iroh's guilt about Lu Ten dying is that Lu Ten was so gung-ho about campaigning and personally being part of the seige of Ba Sing Se because he saw it as a way to help his dad secure the throne. Helps if you know the next one in line is really great, too, especially in a society with as many Confucian undertones as Fire Nation.

(Although one thing I'm not sure I know is if the Fire Nation works on a strictly patrilineal line of descent, rather than a generational one -- like, if the Fire Lord-ship would have gone to Lu Ten if Iroh kicked it, or whether it would have gone to Ozai. Because that would explain, I think, the line in Zuko's flashback about how Azula shouldn't hope that Iroh dies because how would she feel if Lu Ten wanted Dad dead? Because while that makes sense in a familial way if Lu Ten is ahead of Azula in succession, it makes much more sense on a power-scheme sense plus a family sense if the succession goes Iroh - Ozai - Lu Ten - Zuko - Azula.)

Come to keep an old man company in the dank Earth Kingdom winter.

It helps with the guilt of having forgotten some things about Lu Ten, who has been dead for close to twenty years now: there is that picture of him, but Iroh can't summon up the image of the living thing anymore. Easier to think of Lu Ten as consisting of patterns in the flame and the movement of curtains on a dead-still afternoon.

OH MAN. Uh, thanks for descending on this thread and MAPPING OUT IROH’S LAST DAYS, you guys.

DON'T EVEN TRY TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THIS WAS ALL US YOU WERE IN ON IT TOO

Date: 2010-09-22 04:13 pm (UTC)
quigonejinn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
Doomthread is the best, really. It's hard to doomthread when you only ahve two people, but three, I think, is when you can really get something to take off AND IT IS LIKE A CONTINUOUS STREAM OF JOY IN THE INBOX.

even if her family had bred for prettiness as successfully as say Mai’s household

You know, this is really an itneresting thought, because it really seems that the Fire Nation is damn good at its human breeding programs -- I mean, OK, it's canon that Ty Lee's sisters all look alike, and it's head-canon that Ozai bred for Firebending ability first and morals never and somehow ended up with Zuko as a total sport. But throw in the idea of Mai's family looking for pretty, classically beautiful girls (I'm using Ursa as a model -- there is a definite resemblance in the way that they're drawn with the height and the long face and pale skin) -- and yeah. Yeah.

In my head, the fic is about three times when Ilah surprised Azulon -- once when he saw her in the just-out-of-middle-class part of the city, once when they actually met on his sister's campaign and she started singing, and once, when he was recalled from campaign because his father was finally dying, and he was going to be the Fire Lord, in which event he would damn well marry Ilah if he wanted and legitimate his son, and he comes back, and the compound he had established for her was empty, because she was dead of the same summer fever as his father and half the city is dying of. And there is eleven year old Iroh, kneeling and trying to hold back tears and properly welcome him as a subject to the Fire Lord and --

LOOK, LAST OF THE WINE WAS A PRETTY BIG INFLUENCE ON ME, TOO.

the little flicks of fire and air, here in Ba Sing Se

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. See, I was going to say that I wanted to write this, but that phrase, that phrase convinces me that you are the only person to do it. LITTLE FLICKS OF FIRE AND AIR.

even if her family had bred for prettiness as successfully as say Mai’s household

I am fascinated by the idea of the Fire Nation nobility and their little breeding programs. We know Ty Lee's sisters are all in the same mold, and it's pretty common head-canon that Ozai bred for firebending first and morals never, except he ended up with a sport like Zuko. So -- Mai's family, breeding for classically good-looking children, if you want to use the points of similarity between Ursa and Mai as your touchstones (height, slender, long oval face, long hair).

Ilah's family bred for strength. Endurance. Height, not so much. :D

Date: 2010-09-22 05:29 pm (UTC)
obsession_inc: Iroh cheerfully has nothing to apologize for. (Iroh No Apology)
From: [personal profile] obsession_inc
Doomthread is much much better with more than two people, because there are more surprises and much more to bounce off of! I have been so happy about all this, I can't even express it. WELCOME TO DOOMTHREADING! YOU FIT IN WELL!

I do love the theory that it's not so much Iroh that Ozai is competing with, as it's Lu Ten, who isn't a firebender. God. I wonder what all Ozai was up to, while Iroh and Lu Ten were on the field? I can only imagine that his bid for bumping Iroh from the Crown Prince spot was the last part of a long, long campaign of whispers and winks, trying to undermine Iroh with Azulon, and Azulon put up with it because they're brothers, it's normal for brothers to bicker and not get along, even if he would have preferred that they did get along because there's only two of them, this is normal, too! Right?

I am going to have to write myself an Azulon story at some point, I think. The loss of his family was so huge, and impacted him so strongly-- impacted the country, too, I would imagine.

the little flicks of fire and air, here in Ba Sing Se

JFC, [personal profile] fulselden, this is AWESOME.

I SHOULD MENTION HOW MUCH I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF THIS SPRAWLING ROYAL FAMILY BEING WHITTLED DOWN TO A TINY BITTER KNOT OF INFIGHTING AND INCEST BY THE WAY.

I am convinced that Azulon wanted a huge family to make up for the loss of his own, and that the problem with not getting to marry Ilah first off-- and then having problems with his politically-selected brides (from the same family!) and fertility-- made it so that he ended up with just the two. Although I keep wondering, since my brain is still all Tudor on this, how many miscarriages happened-- OH, WAIT. If maybe the politically-selected brides' family was too close, genetically speaking, to Azulon, and a regressive gene kept popping up? I know this makes it way too easy to go AHA, AND THUS THE TENDENCY TOWARD INSANITY IN OZAI AND AZULA, but I don't think it's that (although man, it couldn't have helped), it's something that made pregnancies unstable. Ozai was something of a miracle. A sucky miracle, but there you go. And someone might have tried to explain what happened to Azulon, but he had it in his head that obviously he wasn't meant to have much family, and that's when he went back to the original Plan A and brought up Ilah and Iroh, because if this is all the family he gets then by god it's all going to be legitimate. And of course Ilah was too old to have any more kids at that point. God, it's all so awful. (AND WE MADE IT ALL UP. Which I love.)

And there is eleven year old Iroh, kneeling and trying to hold back tears and properly welcome him as a subject to the Fire Lord and --

Seriously, Rhod, you have got to freaking write this. Er. When you have time. Because that image punches me in the heart every time you mention it. Oh, Iroh.

Date: 2010-09-22 04:17 pm (UTC)
quigonejinn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
IGNORE THE DOUBLE-MENTION OR WHATEVER OF FIRE NATION BREEDING.

(SO GREAT I TALKED ABOUT IT TWICE!)

Date: 2010-09-22 05:39 pm (UTC)
obsession_inc: Black Widow has no knowledge of apologies. (Black Widow No Apology)
From: [personal profile] obsession_inc
DUDE. THIS HAPPENED. LAST TIME. The original DOOMTHREAD, two years ago, saw the invention (pretty much whole cloth) of a character and history for Maria Stark, and [personal profile] quigonejinn and [profile] gabby_silang both wrote the story, and they were very different stories and both completely awesome. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS HAPPENING AGAIN.

Date: 2010-09-22 07:03 pm (UTC)
quigonejinn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
OZAI IS A POISONOUS LITTLE BRAT.

Date: 2010-09-22 07:05 pm (UTC)
obsession_inc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsession_inc
Okay, I am sending you links for general Iron Man shenanigans, GOOD TIMES.

Ozai the precious son who isn’t quite precious enough.

I keep thinking that oh, holy shit, this may actually explain a lot about why he is the way he is. Not only because he lost his birthright to Iroh when he was small, but because, even before that, he was spoiled rotten and told endlessly how special and wonderful he was. Because he was the one that survived. The only child of the Fire Lord, the last representative of that bloodline stretching back a thousand years. My God, how he must have been pampered. He was told he was a miracle, and he completely believed it.

And then, Iroh was brought back, and it wasn't just that Ozai's birthright was taken away, it was that he wasn't special anymore. He was one of two princes instead of the only one.

Damn, that also explains a lot about how he raised Azula, first behind Ursa's back, and then brazenly when she was gone. Zuko is weak; she was the special one.

Date: 2010-09-22 08:39 pm (UTC)
quigonejinn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
Alterna-thought: what if Iroh got brought in because they thought he was not going to survive.

Date: 2010-09-22 08:42 pm (UTC)
obsession_inc: Wendy Watson will snark your ass, but will not apologize. (Wendy Watson No Apology)
From: [personal profile] obsession_inc
OH FUCK ME SIDEWAYS. BECAUSE HE WAS A VERY DELICATE LITTLE BOY. AND ALL HIS SIBLINGS HAD BEEN STILLBORN.

::flails very hard::

Date: 2010-09-22 08:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
I MEAN. IF YOU ARE OZAI, HOW FUCKING BITTER ARE YOU AFTERWARDS? HOW FURIOUS ARE YOU? NO WONDER YOU TURN TO GUILE AND DECEIT AND HAVING YOUR WIFE KILL DAD.

(Also, this makes Ozai-the-Ripped-WWF-Phoenix-King extra hilarious.)

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Date: 2010-09-22 06:27 pm (UTC)
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Here is how your father met your mother: he was on campaign with his sister, and your mother was an officer of the general staff.

...

Of course, there is more than that, but separating actual events from the ballad from the street songs from the didactic text from the novels -- it is not easy, because in later years, the story became a romance. A fable. One version had your father falling in love when he saw her firebending. A few have your mother saving your father's life. One has it the other way around. Some are softer, more romantic.

What you know, as a child, is this: when your father is not on campaign, your father comes to dinner two or three times a week. He is a tall man, much taller than your mother, and not only servants, but anyone else in the house gives way to him. Otherwise, when it is just the three of you, it is not terribly formal, though once a while, your mother will get up the whole ceremony and the kneeling and the offering of food when your father needs reminding of his duty towards you. When your father comes for dinner, he usually spends the night, and you expect that during holidays and the days of ritual, he is not there. This is because your parents are not married.

Your mother likes the idea of your father falling in love after seeing her wash her hair. "As if there would be time for that on one of Azula's campaigns," your mother says, laughing.

Yes, Azula.

Date: 2010-09-22 06:58 pm (UTC)
obsession_inc: Azula does not freakin' apologize. (Azula No Apology)
From: [personal profile] obsession_inc
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RHOD. RHOD. AZULON'S SISTER'S NAME WAS AZULA? OMG. I AM GOING TO DIE NOW KTHX.

WRITE MOAR. OMG.

Date: 2010-09-22 08:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] quigonejinn
OKAY IN MY HEAD THIS WAS HOW AZULON AND ILAH MET BUT I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS BEING THE ALTERNATE HISTORY OF MAI OH MY GOD WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY LUSCIOUS, LUSCIOUS IDEAS?

Date: 2010-09-22 09:15 pm (UTC)
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Alterna-Mai is so fucking badass. SO FUCKING BADASS. In my head, if she never turns on Azula, she -- might not be the FIre Lady. She can just be Zuko (and let's be honest here, Azula's) spymaster, and you kinda get the feeling that -- yeah, not such a bad life, really. That little spawn, in my head, is definitely not a Firebender. But maybe Zuko's kids in his official marriage are, dunh-dunh-dunh.

Fuck me, now I want that fic so bad I can taste it. What happened to Iroh in this universe?

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